Lets get it happening in here, PUTTING!!!!!
 

What success have we all had with TGM putting??? What components have we been using that have been particularly successful?!?!?! Lets lift some fog on the secrets to good putting, Homer style. Are we using the Pick motion? Impact fix or adjusted address? What hinge? What pressure point is most valuable? Zero pivot and/or shoulder turn?

I wonder if we can construct a putting basic pattern as per chapter 12???

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, could you please move this to the putting forum Bagger, how could i forget it's creation.

John

Re: Lets get it happening in here, PUTTING!!!!!
 

I think that putting is best when we put the club in the palm of our left hand as well as zeroing out the pivot. They just aren't needed. The most natural hinge to use is the angled hinge. A putt is hit on a steep plane, so it will look similar to a vertical hinge, but it isn't. This is where Pelz goes wrong. His vertical hinge putting style is totally unnatural and difficult to do. A putt is similar to any other stroke. The hinge action of an angular motion on an inclined plane.

Putting practice is THE best way to start to feel the pressure points and float loading.

Hands slightly ahead, decending blow - 'click', 'click', 'click'

You can easily see and hear proper impact with your putter. If you are having trouble, work on a very light grip a pure 'swing' and a slightly hooded face (hands ahead). If the ball hops, you've gone too far with the ahead/down. You'll see the true 'roll' fairly quickly.

Some putters are Swingers(Crenshaw), and some are Hitters(Nicklaus).
Swingers usually putt ON PLANE(ARC). Hitters can either putt on an INCLINED PLANE, or putt with the toe of the club running along a VERTICAL PLANE(Pelz).

TGM seems to indicate that 10-6-C (Squared Shoulder Plane) is useful for PUTTING. The LEFT SHOULDER, however, is listed here as the reference point for PUTTING.

Hitting stroke
 

As a hitter, I use a mini hitting stroke on the greens. My right arm is like a piston that lines up directly behind the shaft. I then "drive" the club with my right arm to a mini "both arms straight" position.

I like the fact that I'm essentially making the same motion with my putter as I make with the rest of my clubs - just on a smaller scale.

EC you there?
 

EC

Eddie, I know you took a few lessons with your neighbor Geoff Mangum of the Putting Zone. I just read a post of his on his forum trashing Homer's ideas about the putting stroke. Any comments. It suprised me because Mag seems to be a straight back straigh through advocate.

6b

Re: Hitting stroke
 

This mini hitting stroke has worked very well for me. It is the same stroke on a smaller scale and steeper plane. My right arm drive follows that plane.

I putt with a relatively short putter (33") that I also have bent upright a few degrees. My arms hang straight down. Right forearm 'slap' motion back and through, like tossing a ball underhand.

Yep, the easiest way to putt IMO.

Like you have a racquet in your right hand. A bent right wrist 'slap', kind of a heel punch at 'underhand toss' tempo. Racquet face angled slightly forward (grip leads)

Hands slightly ahead. Angled hinge action, no roll feel.

Andy North putted with an old Spalding Cash In... He is a very tall man,
and would choke down on that putter, making it a short putter. He won two U.S. Opens like that.

I putt left hand low with the butt run up to the middle of the left forearm arm. My right hand then grip on top of the left hand with the heel pushing the butt. The stroke is mostly right hand back and pushing forward. In this case, the right arm is always bent and will never be straight. Is this ok?

Would you use the tripod technique (head centered between the feet) and apply the three imperatives and the three essentials and perfect your alignments at the three stations? :?:

I'd LOVE to see Yoda in here when he has time. I wonder if he has a preferred putting method or two. I'm sure he could give some great insights!!! :)

John

There was some great info posted by Lynn on another site. Bagger et al., what are the rules governing posting links to other forums?

Maybe Yoda would be ok if you just cut and pasted. Then again you are right to make sure Matt :)

John

Putting to me is the left arm rhythm of #3 accumulator with a zeroed out right shoulder. An arm motion. I do feel #1 pp of the right hand. I like to putt with my fingers (pressure points) and arms, not hands and shoulders, if that “seems as if” makes sense. I rarely do. :shock:

I totally agree with mgjorden in that most of us use a putter that is way too long. At 6'3 I use a 33 inch putter so my left arm can let #3accum swing. I also release the putter face that will slightly (slightly- see Tiger and Els) bend the left wrist the way the left wrist bends into follow through before it re-positions itself at the end of a full swing.

I also have a long pendulum swing- even on short putts using thrust control - ala, Lynn’s example of a fielder throwing the ball from the outfield to various bases, as the means of distance control.

Works well for me, putting is fun.

There are many, many great items from 2004 authored by Yoda, which I think he plans to put into an archives section on the site here.

I hope I didn't "trash" Homer Kelly. What I said was that he was not a good writer. If anyone really disagrees with that, I'm sorry. Actually, I read Homer's book many times to try to sort out "what the duck" :shock: he was trying to communicate, and I wore out the book flipping from one section to another trying to get his definitions pieced together. Once finished, I understaood he refers to the putting stroke as a vertical hinge action, and as a Ferris Wheel action. That's fine, but there's not much else, is there? Maybe I missed it. :roll: