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Old 01-01-1970, 12:00 AM
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Anyhow Martee...Do you know you need "DIFFERENT FEEL" for ALLclubs in the bag anyway because of the differences in the shaft frequency and balance point etc etc...

...of course....unless....you play with singlw freq. clubs..........

You see THIS whole clubs arguement is why IF YOUR WHOLE DEAL is reading out of the book, you will NEVER be as well versed as a person that has APPLIED the material to all levels of players....

The changes in clubs MATTER>figure it out.

 

Martee wrote:

Please don't mistake this as an attack, BUT frankly the response by Brian is useless to me in answering the mail.

First if I was able to understand the logic and thought process that allowed you to arrive at your conclusions, I wouldn't have asked the question.

Second, it is because of the above point I asked the question.

Basically a non-answer.

I contend, even though I think I understand what Yoda was saying that if a golfer is to have a single ball location then that golfer will have to either make compensations, be required to manipulate or adopt variations that are not optiminal (meaning compensations or manipulations) to a given stroke pattern. That is predicated on the concept that the best (poor choice of word) [Bold by Yoda -- See Reply Below.] golf swing is one that has the least compensations from the ideal swing pattern (and yes I believe Mr. Kelley was giving us choices that would allow us to minimize the compensations/manipulations in the golf swing).

1. Aiming point is not a requirement unless we are using a Snap Release (6-E-1).

2. The ball location changes is oppposite for Swinger than of Hitters (7-2).

3. Ball Location and Plane Angles are closely associated (7-6). As the Plane Angle Steepens, the Ball must be moved forward to control the Divot depth and Pick-off.

4. Ball Location determines the Angle of Approach (2-J-3) and Plane Angle determines the Angle of Attack (7-3).

I realize this isn't the best worded write up but the point I am trying to understand is a simple one (at least in my mind).

To have a single ball location, the golfer must compensate/manipulate to overcome what would be natural and based on equipment design. What is it that changes or is need adjustment to accomplish this? If in fact Aiming point is the key to the one ball position, then other than in a Snap Release, then haven't we added another factor or requirement to the golf swing that Mr. Kelley indicated was only needed for the Snap Release?



A very interesting, well-researched post, Martee. Truly worthy of Forum Readers' time and attention.

I congratulate you not because you express agreement with my reply to your recent post -- I respect the same characteristics in opposing views -- but because you use the Paragraph References in The Golfing Machine as scientific support (1-G) for your hypotheses and proof of your conclusions.

Firstly, come down from your pedistle. icon_rolleyes.gifNo one annointed you king of golfdom.

Secondly, a hypothesis CAN'T be "proved" or accepted without EXPIREMENTS. Or, as Brian says, "REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE". Scientific Theory 101.

I'd take ACTUAL EXPERIENCE over ARMCHAIR THEORY any day.



The widows of many test pilots would disagree.

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