Dr. Puttahurtin'onit . . . Pivot Conforming to Delivery Lines

[Daryl]

It has been mentioned before: It can help you, presetting your hips closed, parallel to the angle of approach.
Can some of the gurus please elaborate.

I would like to know too.

Move your right foot back? ala Hogan with driver. Closed Stance? I don't know if this is the answer.

[mb6606]

Take a swing and stop at the top. Notice where your right hip is positioned. Leaving your right hip where it is bring your hands, arms, shoulders back to address position. Your right hip is pre-set plenty of room to swing the club up and down on the proper angle of approach.

[YodasLuke]

Ted = genius.

Homer = genius
Lynn = genius
Ted = faithful follower of both

[Yoda]

I have been using it in Hitting . . . but that is a question that I'm trying to figure out . . . is it possible to use it for Swinging? Thoughts?

Swingers could use the Angle of Approach procedure, but it is not advisable. Swinging and its Centrifugal Force Throw-Out Action naturally produces the On Line Arc of Approach. Hitting and its Muscular Thrust Drive-Out Action naturally produces the Cross-Line Angle of Approach.

[tongzilla]

Swinging and its Centrifugal Force Throw-Out Action naturally produces the On Line Arc of Approach.

Am I correct to say that the above is not the same as a Swinger using the Arc of Approach Delivery Line? Because I interpret the Arc of Approach Delivery Line procedure as one where you try to cover the Arc of Approach with the Clubhead, as opposed to Tracing the Basic Plane Line, or using the Aiming Point concept, even though the latter two procedures produce an On Line Arc of Approach Motion for the Swinger.

[Yoda]

Am I correct to say that the above is not the same as a Swinger using the Arc of Approach Delivery Line? Because I interpret the Arc of Approach Delivery Line procedure as one where you try to cover the Arc of Approach with the Clubhead, as opposed to Tracing the Basic Plane Line, or using the Aiming Point concept, even though the latter two procedures produce an On Line Arc of Approach Motion for the Swinger.

Right you are, Tongzilla. The Swinger is best advised to indirectly create the Clubhead's Arc of Approach by Tracing the Straight-Line Baseline of the Inclined Plane. However, the direct application is always available, i.e., consciously creating the Arc itself by monitoring the Clubhead Blur and its Arc through Impact.

Homer Kelley felt that the direct Arc of Approach procedure lacks the precision of the Straight Line Tracing. Hence, he did not recommend it (unless, of course, the player's psychological preference dictates otherwise). However, the direct approach can be useful as a teaching device where the student is dramatically under Plane through the Ball (Inside Out Stroke versus Inside Out Impact) and the Club is off its On Plane 'Up, Back and In' path after Low Point. But even that emphasis should be viewed as a temporary remedy.

Remember, your mind should be in your Hands (and their Plane Line Tracing), not in your Clubhead (and its Arc of Approach).

[jim_0068]

If you are swinging and want to try something similar to this try this drill someone told me:

use the arc of approach except bump the hips CROSS LINE instead of PARALLEL. Centrifugal force will still make you use the arc of approach however it will help you keep that right shoulder back longer and help you learn to stop roundhousing.

[Thom]

Take a swing and stop at the top. Notice where your right hip is positioned. Leaving your right hip where it is bring your hands, arms, shoulders back to address position. Your right hip is pre-set plenty of room to swing the club up and down on the proper angle of approach.

In this describtion it seems to me that the hips will be preset much more closed than parallel to the angle of approach. Or am I misinformed. Please Lynn or Ted, help us out here.