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Old 03-31-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: Lie or "Lies"
Originally Posted by YodasLuke
Originally Posted by RickPinewild
The lie board can tell lies. If you swing over the top the lie board says your clubs need to be more upright. I think that observing the ball flight and the divots will give you the best results.
The lie board never lies to a trianed eye. That's why teaching and fitting cannot be separated, and also why you should not test a lie angle indoors. I never fit lie angles to flaws, unless they tell me that they will never take a golf lesson to improve the swing. Only then will I fit the flaw.
My son and I both got fitted this afternoon by our pro, who definitely knows how to fit. My son is 6'1" with long arms. Fitting by measurements dictated he go to clubs a half inch longer than standard. But our pro was quick to point out the flaws in that method. We then went straight to the lie board. Turns out the Ping orange dots (2 degrees flat) that he got 2 years ago still are the correct lie for him.

I recently picked up a new set of Titleist 704 CB's pretty cheap off of ebay which came with standard lies. My Mizuno MP 29's were 2 degrees upright. Turns out with the Titleist, I need to be between 1-2 degrees. Since my misses tend to be hooks, my pro advised to go 1 instead of 2. The more upright lie could tend to lead to making my misses (hooks) worse - because of the "toe up" issue Ted describes above.

For my son, the pro was careful to point out swing path issues that were causing mis-hits, which are not to be confuse with lie-issues.
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